A lot of groups have labels for their members such as Psychic/Medium, Skeptic and sometimes Demonologist. What are your thoughts on groups that claim to have a demonologist on their team or on the field of demonology itself?
Dave:It never fails to amaze me how comfortable people are at affixing titles to their name without any basis. Demonology is one of the highest orders of Orthodox Theology. I am not certain if there are any true Demonologists alive today. For someone to read extensively on the subject doesn't make them a demonologist anymore than studying 'Grey's Anatomy' makes you a doctor.
Even though demonology involves the study of both benevolent and malevolent non-humans, society has labeled the subject to deal solely with evil spirits. As with yin and yang; if we believe in good, we must also believe in evil, both physical and ethereal.
We at PPS, since our inception have a firm policy of not becoming involved with any investigation where the possibility of a demonic event is occurring. Not that we turn our backs on anyone who needs help; that would never happen. It is simply this: we do not have enough knowledge or experience to effectively deal with something of this magnitude. Any group who claims to have either is both full of crap and setting both the client and their team members up for disaster.
Should it appear that something so vehemently evil exists in a property, we would so advise the client, and would assist in finding the proper channels to deal with the situation. To state that we are able to help them directly would be an extreme disservice and an outright lie.
These groups seriously need to re-evaluate who and what they are. As I have said in the past, paranormal research is one of the few studies where there are no regulatory bodies. Anyone can hang that shingle at their doorstep and pretend to be an expert. If anyone truly believes what they are experiencing is caused by an inhuman agent, do not trust in a group who claims to have a staff demonologist. Immediately seek the assistance of clergy, who albeit will need to go through additional channels to seek assistance, are a much better option.
Jake:I am hardly a scientist, but I try to think with an open mind and a I think that anyone who claims to be a skeptic is a smart person. We should all be skeptics ... never take any information at face value. Everything should be researched and anything that cannot be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt should be taken with skepticism for sure. (That's how O.J. got off the first time)
But as far as demonologists and psychics go, it's all a bunch of people who seek attention and since they cannot get it from the earthly beings, they are stealing it from the dead. It's perverse in my opinion. If a spirit wished to speak with any of us, I'm sure it will find a way to do so, but it won't be just to specific people, appearing out of thin air like Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Not a sermon, just a thought.
Rex:This brings us back to one of the older posts about the problems with the paranormal field, it seems that anybody with a flashlight and a $40 recorder claims to be a paranormal expert. Worse yet some think that because they've seen the Exorcist that they are a demonologist. In reality there has only been one lay person who was ever recognized by the Catholic church as a demonologist, his name was Ed Warren. He and his wife Lorraine are pretty well respected in the field having over 50 years experience and 10,000 investigations under their belt. We as a group know our limitations and would not think of trying to pass off one of our members as something they are not. There is too much of an unnecessary risk to homeowners and a group's members to take on something that they can not fully understand. I advise anybody out there that is starting or that belongs to a group, DO NOT venture into this dangerous field unless you have decades of first hand experience dealing with these entities.
Dave:It never fails to amaze me how comfortable people are at affixing titles to their name without any basis. Demonology is one of the highest orders of Orthodox Theology. I am not certain if there are any true Demonologists alive today. For someone to read extensively on the subject doesn't make them a demonologist anymore than studying 'Grey's Anatomy' makes you a doctor.
Even though demonology involves the study of both benevolent and malevolent non-humans, society has labeled the subject to deal solely with evil spirits. As with yin and yang; if we believe in good, we must also believe in evil, both physical and ethereal.
We at PPS, since our inception have a firm policy of not becoming involved with any investigation where the possibility of a demonic event is occurring. Not that we turn our backs on anyone who needs help; that would never happen. It is simply this: we do not have enough knowledge or experience to effectively deal with something of this magnitude. Any group who claims to have either is both full of crap and setting both the client and their team members up for disaster.
Should it appear that something so vehemently evil exists in a property, we would so advise the client, and would assist in finding the proper channels to deal with the situation. To state that we are able to help them directly would be an extreme disservice and an outright lie.
These groups seriously need to re-evaluate who and what they are. As I have said in the past, paranormal research is one of the few studies where there are no regulatory bodies. Anyone can hang that shingle at their doorstep and pretend to be an expert. If anyone truly believes what they are experiencing is caused by an inhuman agent, do not trust in a group who claims to have a staff demonologist. Immediately seek the assistance of clergy, who albeit will need to go through additional channels to seek assistance, are a much better option.
Jake:I am hardly a scientist, but I try to think with an open mind and a I think that anyone who claims to be a skeptic is a smart person. We should all be skeptics ... never take any information at face value. Everything should be researched and anything that cannot be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt should be taken with skepticism for sure. (That's how O.J. got off the first time)
But as far as demonologists and psychics go, it's all a bunch of people who seek attention and since they cannot get it from the earthly beings, they are stealing it from the dead. It's perverse in my opinion. If a spirit wished to speak with any of us, I'm sure it will find a way to do so, but it won't be just to specific people, appearing out of thin air like Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Not a sermon, just a thought.
Rex:This brings us back to one of the older posts about the problems with the paranormal field, it seems that anybody with a flashlight and a $40 recorder claims to be a paranormal expert. Worse yet some think that because they've seen the Exorcist that they are a demonologist. In reality there has only been one lay person who was ever recognized by the Catholic church as a demonologist, his name was Ed Warren. He and his wife Lorraine are pretty well respected in the field having over 50 years experience and 10,000 investigations under their belt. We as a group know our limitations and would not think of trying to pass off one of our members as something they are not. There is too much of an unnecessary risk to homeowners and a group's members to take on something that they can not fully understand. I advise anybody out there that is starting or that belongs to a group, DO NOT venture into this dangerous field unless you have decades of first hand experience dealing with these entities.
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